Government ‘Not Ruling Anything Out’ When It Comes To Removing Andrew From Succession Line


A cabinet minister has promised the government is “not ruling anything out” when it comes to the possibility of removing Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor from the line of succession.

The former prince was already stripped of his titles last autumn over his connection to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

Fresh details about their relationship saw police arrest Andrew, formerly a UK trade envoy, over allegations of misconduct in public office on Thursday.

He was released under investigation. The former Duke of York has always vehemently denied any wrongdoing.

The developments have sparked widespread calls for the government to take further action against the former prince, who remains eighth in line to the throne.

Doing so would require an act of parliament, meaning it would need approval from MPs and peers before going to the King for royal assent.

It would need to be supported by 14 Commonwealth countries where King Charles is still the head of state, too.

Andrew is also still part of the Privy Council, a formal body of advisers to the monarch, which acts as a key link between the monarchy and the government.

So Sky News presenter Trevor Phillips asked education secretary Bridget Phillipson: “When can we expect to see draft legislation, excluding the form of Prince Andrew from the line of succession?”

She replied: “So we’re not ruling anything out, around this, but we have obviously got a live police investigation underway, so we’ll not be setting out further steps until the police have been able to do their work.

“And wherever that investigation, wherever the evidence takes them.”

Phillips said: “But so you’re up for this and also presumably advising the King to remove him from the Privy Council?”

“So we’ve said that we have to keep all of these options available to us,” the cabinet minister replied. “But you’ll appreciate that because we have a live police investigation underway.

“It’s right that the police are allowed to do their job.

“Once that is concluded, then of course we’ll consider in discussion, with the royal family, with the King, what further action is needed.

“But I do just think as well, in all of this, we really shouldn’t lose sight of where this began.

“And where this began was with young women and girls being exploited over an extended period of time by a network of very powerful men and we can’t ever forget that.”

Her remarks come after defence minister Luke Pollard told BBC Radio 4 that the government has “absolutely” been working with Buckingham Palace to stop Andrew “potentially being a heartbeat away from the throne.”

He said he hoped the idea would receive “cross party support” but warned that something like that could only happen when the police investigation concludes.

Lib Dem leader Ed Davey said last week that the monarchy must work to make sure Andrew can “never become king”, while Green leader Zack Polanski said “when necessary” people should be “removed” from their positions.

Andrew was detained for 11 hours on Thursday, which was his 66th birthday.

Police searched his property on the Sandringham estate on the day and are in the middle of a five-day search of his Windsor home, Royal Lodge.

Several other police forces are allegedly considering launching an investigation into the former prince based on the Epstein files.

It comes after the US Department of Justice released more than three million documents about Epstein and his connections around the world last month, including his contact with Andrew.




Why Is A Minister Being Investigated Over An Alleged Smear Campaign Against Journalists?


A Cabinet Office minister is under investigation after his former think tank allegedly ordered a smear campaign against journalists.

Josh Simons was the director of Labour Together in 2023 when the pro-Keir Starmer think tank ordered an investigation into the “backgrounds and motivations” of reporters.

The journalists were trying to look into the source of the think tank’s funding at the time.

Simons was elected as a Labour MP in 2024 and is now a member of the government, meaning the issue is set to cause another headache for Labour.

He has said he is “surprised and shocked to read the report extended beyond the contract” at the time.

Here’s what you need to know about this new saga.

Why Is Labour Together Being Investigated?

Labour Together is a think tank closely linked to Starmer and his rise to power.

It used to be headed up by Morgan McSweeney, who left his position as the prime minister’s chief of staff earlier this month.

The organisation allegedly commissioned PR consultancy Apco Worldwide to write a report which made false claims about journalists who were investigating the think tank, according to The Sunday Times.

That investigation examined “sourcing, funding and origins” of a November 2023 Sunday Times report into Labour Together’s funding, after the group failed to declare £730,000 of donations between 2017 and 2020.

Its findings – which included allegations about Sunday Times’ journalists Gabriel Pogrund and Harry Yorke – were then shared informally with Labour figures.

Apco’s senior director and a former Sunday Times employee, Tom Harper, reportedly claimed to use “discreet human source inquiries” and documents as part of his report.

He allegedly claimed some of the emails backing up the Sunday Times reporting came from a “suspected Kremlin hack of the Electoral Commission”.

The Apco probe allegedly referred to Pogrund’s Jewish heritage and made baseless claims about his faith, too.

The research was paid for and then reviewed by Simons, according to The Guardian.

This move has sparked outrage across the political spectrum in recent days.

What Has The Government Said?

Speaking to reporters on Monday, Starmer confirmed there would be a Cabinet Office investigation, adding: “And quite right too.

“And so that is already in place. I didn’t know anything about this investigation, and it absolutely needs to be looked into. So the Cabinet Office will be establishing the facts.”

But the science and technology secretary Liz Kendall has suggested the Cabinet Office’s probe will not be a formal inquiry.

The trade body for the PR industry, the Public Relations and Communications Association, is allegedly launching the official probe.

“It’s absolutely right that the relevant regulatory body that covers public affairs is already investigating this. The Cabinet Office will be establishing the facts,” she told BBC Radio 4′s Today programme. “Establishing the facts is the first thing that you’ve got to do on anything, isn’t it? If you want to look into something properly, you have to be able to establish the facts.”

She added: “The freedom of the press, difficult though it is, is an essential part of the proper functioning of a parliamentary democracy, and that’s extremely important.”

No.10 has refused to offer further details on what the government’s process might look like but it is thought to be led by the Cabinet Office’s propriety and ethics team.

The Downing Street spokesperson told reporters: “This relates to a Labour think tank and the dates precede this government and our minister’s appointment as a minister.”

“I’m somewhat limited in what I can say,” the representative added. “The Cabinet Office is looking into this to make sure the facts are established.”

But he added No.10 does have confidence in Simons as it stands.

“The Cabinet Office will be looking at the facts.”@annaefoster asks Technology Secretary Liz Kendall if she would support an investigation into the situation that saw Cabinet minister Josh Simons hire a lobbying firm who ended up investigating a Sunday Times journalist. pic.twitter.com/NHFetj87Ru

— BBC Radio 4 Today (@BBCr4today) February 16, 2026

What Has Josh Simons Said?

He told The Sunday Times: “I was surprised and shocked to read the report extended beyond the contract by including unnecessary information on Gabriel Pogrund.

“I asked for this information to be removed before passing the report to GCHQ. No other British journalists were investigated in any document I or Labour Together ever received.”

How Have Other MPs Responded?

Multiple Labour MPs have criticised the government’s response.

Left-wing Labour MP, Richard Burgon, said: “I’m afraid this simply does not wash. The Cabinet Office is going to look into allegations involving a Cabinet Office minister?

“The Labour Party needs to start taking these allegations very seriously. That means an independent investigation.”

The Conservatives also called for an immediate investigation into Simons’ role in the probe.

Conservative Party chair Kevin Hollinrake said: “Josh Simons must now recuse himself from his role as the minister with responsibility for inquiries policy while he is being investigated by the Cabinet Office.

“We must also see the terms of reference for the inquiry and know who is leading it.

“The Labour Party must also investigate and review its ongoing relationship with Labour Together in light of these very serious accusations.”

Liberal Democrat Cabinet Office spokesperson Lisa Smart said: “I’m appalled by reports of smear tactics by a party that promised to make politics cleaner than clean. It looks like the group that credits itself with getting Labour into government has carried out an outrageous attack on our independent free press.

“Josh Simons should temporarily step down as Cabinet Office minister while the investigation takes place to avoid any conflict of interest.”

Green Party leader Zack Polanski said: ‘Once again, our caretaker PM ‘didn’t know.’.

“We need to get to the bottom of this disturbing pattern of shady authoritarianism and the world of secret political funding.

“These disturbing stories are indicative of the kind of culture that continues to define this Labour government – and the rot goes right to the top.

“Labour Together’s antics have been known for ages. As with Mandelson and Doyle, Starmer must have known. Come clean. Stop investigating and start acting.”

“The surveillance and smearing of journalists is another sign of our slide into briefcase authoritarianism: where protesters are thrown in jail without a jury trial, where digital ID is mandatory, and where our most personal health data is sold off to US tech giants.”




Keir Starmer says Jim Ratcliffe is ‘offensive and wrong’ as he calls on Manchester United co-owner to apologise for saying UK has been colonised by immigrants


Sir Keir Starmer has said it was ‘offensive and wrong’ for Sir Jim Ratcliffe to claim that the UK ‘has been colonised by immigrants’.

The Prime Minister has told the Manchester United owner to apologise ‘immediately’, declaring: ‘Britain is a proud, tolerant and diverse country’.

As well as criticising UK immigration levels, Sir Jim also questioned whether Sir Keir was the right man to lead the country in an interview yesterday.

He said that the PM ‘may be too nice’ for the job and that ‘difficult’ decisions were needed by those in power to rescue the economy, which grew by just 0.1% in the final quarter of last year, official figures revealed today.

Responding to his immigration comments in a post on X, the Prime Minister wrote: ‘Offensive and wrong. Jim Ratcliffe should apologise.’

Sir Jim is also facing a backlash from Manchester United fans. Protest group The ’58 called him ‘a total embarrassment’. The Manchester United Supporters Trust said he was ‘marginalising’ the club’s fanbase.

But there has been some support for his comments, with Nigel Farage tweeting: ‘Britain has undergone unprecedented mass immigration that has changed the character of many areas in our country. Labour may try to ignore that but Reform won’t’.

Yarmouth MP Rupert Lowe said: ‘Ratcliffe is right. And I respect him for having the balls to say it’, adding: ‘It [the UK] has been colonised by immigrants. That’s just a fact. No point pussyfooting around it’.

Keir Starmer says Jim Ratcliffe is ‘offensive and wrong’ as he calls on Manchester United co-owner to apologise for saying UK has been colonised by immigrants

Manchester United co-owner, Sir Jim Ratcliffe, has said that Britain has been ‘colonised’ by immigrants he says are ‘costing too much money’ in a bombshell interview 

The 73-year-old businessman also revealed that he is unsure whether Sir Keir Starmer, pictured in PMQs February 11, is the right man to be Prime Minister

The 73-year-old businessman also revealed that he is unsure whether Sir Keir Starmer, pictured in PMQs February 11, is the right man to be Prime Minister

Sir Keir's tweet demanding that Sir Jim apologises

Sir Keir’s tweet demanding that Sir Jim apologises

But Downing Street said Sir Jim’s remarks ‘play into the hands of those who want to divide our country’ and called on him to ‘immediately’ apologise.

A No 10 spokesman said: ‘Jim Ratcliffe should immediately apologise.

‘His offensive remarks are wrong and play into the hands of those who want to divide our country.’

In an interview with Sky News, the Ineos owner said: ‘You can’t have an economy with nine million people on benefits and huge levels of immigrants coming in. 

‘I mean, the UK has been colonised by immigrants really, hasn’t it? It’s costing too much money. The population of the UK was 58 million in 2020, now it’s 70 million. That’s 12 million people.’ 

The 73-year-old businessman also questioned whether Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer is the right man to lead the country forward in a bombshell new interview, arguing ‘he may be too nice’. 

He added: ‘I don’t know whether it’s just the apparatus that hasn’t allowed Keir to do it or, or he’s maybe too nice – I mean, Keir is a nice man.

‘I like him, but it’s a tough job and I think you have to do some difficult things with the UK to get it back on track, because at the moment I don’t think the economy is in a good state.’ 

The population of the UK was estimated to have been 70 million in mid-2024, according to the Office for National Statistics, three million higher than that recorded during 2020. 

A massive 65,922 illegal migrants have reached the United Kingdom since Sir Keir’s time on Downing Street began in July 2024 – that’s more than under any other PM in history.  

Greater Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham, who has been working closely with United on its stadium project, says Ratcliffe’s words ‘go against everything for which Manchester has traditionally stood’. 

‘Footballers who have arrived from all over the world to play in Greater Manchester have enhanced the life of our city region as have the many people working in Greater Manchester’s NHS and other essential services and industries’.

And Sir Keir’s Justice minister Jake Richards claimed this morning that the Ineos billionaire is ‘hypocritical’ to criticise the Government on migration, because he has ‘moved to Monaco to save £4billion in tax’.

‘One might question whether he is the patriot we need to comment on this issue’, he said.

Kick It Out – the anti-discrimination football campaign group – criticised Sir Jim’s comments, including the claim that the UK population has swelled by 12 million since 2020.

In a statement to the Press Association, Kick It Out said: ‘Sir Jim Ratcliffe’s comments are disgraceful and deeply divisive at a time when football does so much to bring communities together.

‘In addition to the inaccurate figures mentioned, it’s worth reminding him that Manchester United has a diverse fan base and plays in a city whose cultural history has been enriched by immigrants.

‘This type of language and leadership has no place in English football, and we believe most fans will feel the same.’

Sir Keir Starmer has come under mounting pressure and this week endured the toughest stint of his 18 months in office amid the scandal which saw Lord Peter Mandelson resign from government. 

He faced calls to resign from opposition leaders and, in a damning turn of events, Scottish Labour leader Anas Sarwar also pleaded with him to walk away on Monday. 

But at a meeting with his Parliamentary Labour Party later that evening, the Prime Minister affirmed that he has no intentions to give up. 

Earlier on Monday he had received backing from both Angela Rayner and Rachel Reeves which strengthened his position. Mayor of Manchester Andy Burnham has also since shared his support for the under-pressure PM. 

In his new interview, Sir Jim revealed that he has met with Reform UK leader Nigel Farage, who he describes as ‘an intelligent man’.  

He added: ‘I think he’s got good intentions. But, in a way, you could say exactly the same about Keir Starmer. 

‘I think it needs somebody who’s prepared to be unpopular for a period of time to get the big issues sorted.’ 

One of Britain’s richest men, Ratcliffe has been widely unpopular with Man United fans since purchasing his stake in the club on December 24, 2023. His group also owns Ligue 1 side Nice after completing a takeover deal in 2019.

He is estimated to be worth around £17billion, according to the Sunday Times Rich List in 2025, making him the seventh wealthiest person in the country. 

However, in the last year alone, the Lancashire-born business owner has seen his riches decline by some £6billion, likely due to the expenses of running United.

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Ratcliffe has been widely unpopular with Man United fans since purchasing his stake in the club on December 24, 2023

Ratcliffe has been widely unpopular with Man United fans since purchasing his stake in the club on December 24, 2023

A massive 65,922 illegal migrants have reached the United Kingdom since Sir Keir's time in Downing Street began in July 2024 - that's more than under any other PM in history (file photo)

A massive 65,922 illegal migrants have reached the United Kingdom since Sir Keir’s time in Downing Street began in July 2024 – that’s more than under any other PM in history (file photo)

‘I’ve been very unpopular at Manchester United because we’ve made lots of changes,’ he admitted. ‘But, for the better, in my view. I think we’re beginning to see some evidence in the football club that that’s beginning to pay off.’ 

The 219 migrants who reached British shores on Sunday, February 8, saw the total who have entered Britain during Sir Keir’s leadership surpass that under Boris Johnson.

One of Sir Keir’s first acts in office after the 2024 general election was scrapping the previous government’s Rwanda asylum deal.

The programme had been designed to deter crossings – and save lives – by sending migrants to the east African country to claim asylum there rather than here.

Labour’s flagship policy is a ‘one in, one out’ deal with France which allows a small number of migrants to be sent back across the Channel. 

The Lord Mandelson scandal brought Sir Keir’s tenure in government to the brink of disaster and preceded the resignations of a number of his most senior figures. 

After the disgraced Mandelson walked away to ‘avoid further embarrassment’, the PM’s chief of staff Morgan McSweeney handed in his resignation on Sunday. 

McSweeney had been influential in the appointment of Mandelson as the UK’s ambassador to the US – a decision he admitted was ‘wrong’ in a farewell statement. 

Later, Sir Keir’s communications director Tim Allen quit on Monday to ‘let a new team’ take over in Number Ten, he said. 

Sir Keir has come under mounting pressure and this week endured the toughest stint of his 18 months in office

Sir Keir has come under mounting pressure and this week endured the toughest stint of his 18 months in office

The scandal involving Lord Peter Mandelson's links to Jeffrey Epstein brought the government to the brink

The scandal involving Lord Peter Mandelson’s links to Jeffrey Epstein brought the government to the brink

Despite the Labour leader seemingly strengthening his position following a meeting with his party later that day, fresh doubts have since been cast over his judgment. 

Sir Keir’s woes deepened amid claims he went ahead with a peerage for Lord Matthew Doyle despite knowing about his ties to paedophile councillor Sean Morton.  

Doyle has apologised for campaigning for Morton in 2017 – after the latter had been charged over indecent images of children – saying he believed his friend’s assertions of innocence.

Party chair Anna Turley is calling for Lord Doyle to be kicked out of the Upper House, insisting he did not tell the truth before being elevated by Sir Keir.

No 10 is adamant Lord Doyle’s actions were not known when the peerage was announced on December 10 last year.

However, there are mounting questions about the timeline, with the Sunday Times having claimed that No 10 looked into the issues beforehand.

The situation has been likened to that of Mandelson, with the PM’s allies blaming the vetting system for letting him down. 

Asked about the situation during a tour of broadcast studios this morning, education minister Georgia Gould said: ‘I think the decision, the announcement was made on December 10. I think the story was later in the month.

‘But I think the Prime Minister has looked at this afresh, given the commitment that he has made to ensure the highest standards in public life.’

In echoes of the Mandelson scandal that brought Sir Keir to the brink of disaster, the PM's allies have been blaming the vetting system for letting him down

In echoes of the Mandelson scandal that brought Sir Keir to the brink of disaster, the PM’s allies have been blaming the vetting system for letting him down

In an earlier statement, Lord Doyle apologised ‘unreservedly’ for supporting Moray councillor Morton before the case against him had concluded.  

He said he also had ‘extremely limited’ contact with Morton after his conviction.  

The Scottish National Party had objected to Lord Doyle’s peerage and Tory leader Kemi Badenoch called on Sir Keir to publish ‘vetting advice and due diligence’ reports provided before his appointment to the Lords.

Labour had suspended Morton after he appeared in court in connection with indecent child images in late 2016.

Lord Doyle campaigned for Morton when he ran as an Independent in May 2017.

Morton admitted having indecent images of children in November 2017.


Cabinet bounced into giving PM ‘a stay of execution’: Ministers back Starmer after 24 hours of silence as markets wobble in wake of Scottish Labour chief telling Sir Keir ‘go now’… amid war with Wes


Keir Starmer was clinging to power this evening after the Cabinet gave him a late stay of execution.

The Prime Minister was rocked when the Scottish Labour leader Anas Sarwar dramatically called on him to resign for the good of the country in the wake of the Mandelson scandal.

Mr Sarwar, once an ally of Sir Keir, said there had been ‘too many mistakes’ in Downing Street.

‘I have to be honest about failure wherever I see it,’ he said. ‘The distraction has to end, the leadership has to change.’

Mr Sarwar told the PM of his move in advance, triggering panic in No 10 and sparking a major rescue operation.

One Labour source said ministers were told to voice their support for the PM by the end of the day or face the sack.

Sir Keir was already reeling from the departure of his chief of staff Morgan McSweeney on Sunday, who was followed out of the door by his communications director Tim Allan this morning.

And Cabinet Secretary Sir Chris Wormald was this evening on the brink of joining the Downing Street exodus – just a year after Sir Keir appointed him.

Cabinet bounced into giving PM ‘a stay of execution’: Ministers back Starmer after 24 hours of silence as markets wobble in wake of Scottish Labour chief telling Sir Keir ‘go now’… amid war with Wes

Keir Starmer’s Cabinet gave him a late stay of execution, finally backing him in the face of Anas Sarwar after refusing to do so for 24hours following McSweeney’s dramatic exit

Scottish Labour leader Anas Sarwar called for Starmer's resignation after 'too many mistakes in Downing Street' this morning (pictured)

Scottish Labour leader Anas Sarwar called for Starmer’s resignation after ‘too many mistakes in Downing Street’ this morning (pictured)

Cabinet ministers had refused to publicly back the embattled Prime Minister for more than 24 hours after Mr McSweeney’s dramatic departure. Private discussions were held about the possibility of replacing him with an interim leader such as Defence Secretary John Healey.

But, with leadership rivals not ready to make their move and financial markets wobbling over the prospect of a chaotic contest, they finally bowed to No 10’s demands to issue public statements of support.

In a belated flurry of posts on social media, which began as Mr Sarwar got to his feet, every member of the Cabinet gave the Prime Minister their broad support.

And in a defiant address to Labour MPs later, Sir Keir vowed to battle on, saying: ‘Every fight I’ve ever been in, I have won.’

On another dramatic day in Westminster:

  • Allies of Health Secretary Wes Streeting claimed No 10 had falsely accused him of being in league with Mr Sarwar at the very moment he was recording a TV interview backing the PM
  • Mr Streeting published details of his email exchanges with Peter Mandelson in a bid to draw a line under claims by leadership rivals that his ambitions will be derailed by their past friendship
  • Messages revealed that Mr Streeting moaned privately about Labour’s performance, including complaining the Government has ‘no growth strategy at all’
  • Details emerged of a ‘Rayner for Leader’ website apparently launched by supporters of the former deputy PM and accidentally set live, briefly, last month
  • A Find Out Now poll of 2,000 voters found the public want Sir Keir to resign by a margin of 50:22.
Wes Streeting has long been earmarked as a potential opponent for Labour leadership. He spoke during a visit to Maggie's Cancer Centre at the Royal Free Hospital in London, February 4, 2026

Wes Streeting has long been earmarked as a potential opponent for Labour leadership. He spoke during a visit to Maggie’s Cancer Centre at the Royal Free Hospital in London, February 4, 2026

John Healey during a visit to the aerospace, defence and security company, Leonardo UK, in Edinburgh, January 22, 2026

John Healey during a visit to the aerospace, defence and security company, Leonardo UK, in Edinburgh, January 22, 2026

Sir Keir started the day isolated after agreeing the departure of Mr McSweeney, who is credited for masterminding Labour’s landslide election victory in 2024.

No 10 was initially unable to persuade ministers to take to the airwaves to defend the PM amid public revulsion at his decision to appoint Lord Mandelson as ambassador to the US despite knowing he had remained friends with paedophile financier Jeffrey Epstein following his conviction for child sex offences.

But Mr Sarwar’s intervention forced senior Labour figures to make a snap decision to either back the PM or move against him.

None of Sir Keir’s likely successors, including Angela Rayner and Mr Streeting, are confident of winning an immediate battle – and Labour sources said there was strong opposition within the party to triggering a contest before vital local elections in May.

This evening, Ms Rayner denied any links to the website, with her team dismissing it as a ‘fake’ that had neither been commissioned by her, nor with her knowledge, while one ally described it as a ‘false flag’ operation. Ms Rayner and Mr Streeting’s decision to back down gives Sir Keir some breathing space to try to regain control of the Government which has been hit with a wave of anger over the Mandelson scandal.

However, Labour MPs warned that Sir Keir could still be forced out if the party loses a looming by-election in Manchester this month or suffers a wipeout in May, when Scottish and Welsh parliamentary elections will be held alongside a major round of council elections in England.

Veteran Labour MP Graham Stringer said the PM ‘cannot survive this amount of chaos’, adding: ‘I think we have to wait and see the [election] results… that will give Labour MPs time to sort through what is the right process.’

Labour MP Peter Lamb urged the PM to name his departure date now. Writing in The House magazine, he said: ‘He can wait until May and force the country to endure the chaos of removing a sitting PM… or he can act now.’

Angela Rayner at the Greenock Arts Centre May 31, 2024

Angela Rayner at the Greenock Arts Centre May 31, 2024

The PM insisted he wanted to take on Farage at the next election. Here, he speaks at a Reform UK rally in Birmingham, February, 2026

The PM insisted he wanted to take on Farage at the next election. Here, he speaks at a Reform UK rally in Birmingham, February, 2026

Ministers also warned the PM that he would have to make radical changes to survive. Technology Secretary Liz Kendall backed him to stay to ‘steady the ship’, but added: ‘We also need to change course.’

Education Secretary Bridget Phillipson acknowledged that the Government had ‘made mistakes’ but insisted Sir Keir would still be Prime Minister by the summer.

In his address to the Labour Party this evening, the PM insisted he wanted to stay to take on Nigel Farage at the next election.

‘Having fought so hard for the chance to change our country, I’m not prepared to walk away from my mandate and my responsibility, or to plunge us into chaos, as others have done,’ he said.

Sir Keir went on to describe the battle with Reform UK as the ‘fight of our lives, the fight of our times’.

He added: ‘I’ll tell you this, as long as I have breath in my body, I’ll be in that fight, on behalf of the country that I love and I believe in, against those that want to tear it up.’